"The family made plans to separate when it became clear that their lives were in danger. They found friends that they could stay with separately. They set up times to meet. And they would never all be together the four of them. They would pass notes back and forth to each other.
My father worked in the early part of the war for Siemens. Didn’t get paid for the work other than just, you know, maybe enough to cover food. But essentially it was almost slave labor. He worked for Siemens, I think he said, for maybe seven or eight months. But then after that it was a struggle. It was just people were willing to help out and give food and things like that."