"My father was born in December of 1924 in Berlin. They were fairly well-off economically. He was one of two children. He was the older of the two. His sister, Ruth, was born a couple years later. My grandfather was a leather maker-- at least…

"I came home after all the reunions. I opened the door to my real world and I saw a tremendous mountain. I had no money. My education and my life had been put on a shelf. I had to reclaim all of that. And when I looked at that mountain, it’d be…

"We got on the train. The train took three days and three nights. When we got to Omaha, there was another ensign and his wife on the train, and he said, 'Where are you gonna stay when you get to San Francisco?' And we said, 'We don’t know, we’ll…

"Originally he didn’t want me to go to Norfolk because he said, 'That place just is crawling with the Navy,' and he said, 'I don’t think it’s a safe place for a pretty girl.' But he said, 'We’ll go down together and see how it is.' So when…

"The reason we got married [in Ithaca] was because we weren’t sure how much vacation time he was gonna get. We didn’t dare take a chance. So instead of having a nice, long dress, I had a nice beige suit and a cute little hat instead of a wedding…

"He proposed in three weeks because he had been transferred to Chicago. He said, 'I’ve got to go,' and he said, 'I just can’t help it,' and he said, 'I was just sick about it. I didn’t wanna marry y—I do wanna marry you, but I didn’t wanna…

"We went out to the base, and we danced and we danced and we danced, and I wore a brand new dress. It was purple, and it was real pretty and soft but it wrinkled. It was made out of rayon, because that was all that was available, and I was very…

"That’s where I was the night that my young man [Rich] came bouncing in, and he was in the Navy, and he had come in with his buddy...You could always walk in there and there was always somebody there to feed you. So they were just looking, they had…

"We came on Saturday, and my girlfriend from the U of D [University of Detroit] went with me, and we both got assigned to work on Saturday from six to twelve, or maybe it was seven to eleven, I don’t remember, but anyway, we were coming there, and…

"Now, after the war’s over, and wars have a way of ending, I came back to school, and I went to graduate school at T—at Syracuse, Syracuse University. And I flew with the New York Air National Guard as a radar observer, and that was a completely…