"We got on the train. The train took three days and three nights. When we got to Omaha, there was another ensign and his wife on the train, and he said, 'Where are you gonna stay when you get to San Francisco?' And we said, 'We don’t know, we’ll…

"Originally he didn’t want me to go to Norfolk because he said, 'That place just is crawling with the Navy,' and he said, 'I don’t think it’s a safe place for a pretty girl.' But he said, 'We’ll go down together and see how it is.' So when…

"The reason we got married [in Ithaca] was because we weren’t sure how much vacation time he was gonna get. We didn’t dare take a chance. So instead of having a nice, long dress, I had a nice beige suit and a cute little hat instead of a wedding…

"That’s where I was the night that my young man [Rich] came bouncing in, and he was in the Navy, and he had come in with his buddy...You could always walk in there and there was always somebody there to feed you. So they were just looking, they had…

"Well, it just absolutely scared me to death because the day it came over the radio, I was taking a nap and—curled up in my bed—and my parents had gone out for a walk, and I couldn’t tell anybody. So as soon as they got home, why, I said,…

"My mother said, 'I know this wonderful, wonderful school, and the girls all have all these toys to play with and each other, and nobody’s ever lonesome, and there's a big bedroom, and there’ll be thirty beds up there, and there’ll be somebody…

"My dad's name was Charles, my mother's name was Elsie, but they divorced in 1932...It was such a small deal. I didn't know they were divorced. My mother never told me. My dad never told me. And I found out when I was thirteen years old that daddy…

"I had a wife. Her name was Mattie. I met her in college. We stayed married a long time. She passed away about 4 or 5 years ago. She was a teacher. She taught elementary school. She also taught special education, now, if you have any educators…

"When I got home, Evelyn came over to the house to see me. I didn’t know she knew I was at home. Somebody told her. And anyway, she said, 'You ought to go to church tomorrow.' And I said, 'Yeah.' So we went to church, and we started going back…

"There were 109 of us in the first class at Lubbock...We graduated on November the 10th, 1942...That was South Plains Air Force, they called it. And we were supposed to remain as instructors. Well, we get orders to transfer us to Austin,…