"I did not make it through civil engineering. The company that I started with came to me and said, 'We started your education. We want to finish it. But we want to get you to change from civil engineering.' I said, 'What do you want me to change to?'…

"I came home after all the reunions. I opened the door to my real world and I saw a tremendous mountain. I had no money. My education and my life had been put on a shelf. I had to reclaim all of that. And when I looked at that mountain, it’d be…

"On my work scholarship, I would be assigned to certain areas that I was to work in. And mechanical drawing was one of the big things that I had trouble with, but I finally mastered it and I became good at that, so that's where I would work. They…

"The school system in Troup County went broke. And when it went broke, there was nothing to flow to the teachers, to compensate them, so they all retired, resigned. School shut down. We went to Harris County to see if it was possible for us to get…

"I had all kinds of quick get-rich schemes, but because I was so interested in civil engineering and in the energy that was in all the little streams that was going across the farms, I built a paddle wheel. That paddle wheel had five blades on it,…

"He worked for a company out in Chattanooga, and he was the national sales manager of that one, and they sold it to some other company, and at that point in time, my husband said, 'They’re gonna pick our heads free, and then they’ll let us go.'…

"After his ship moved away from Japan, they went on down to the Hawaiian Isles, and they went to Pearl Harbor and picked up a lot of sailors that had enough hours in to get out. They chugged in to San Diego in November right around Thanksgiving day,…

"When he reported in at the navy office, they transferred us to Seattle. So we had to come home and pack what little we had unpacked, and get down to the station and get on a train that took us...took us all day, straight north, to Seattle. And…

"We got on the train. The train took three days and three nights. When we got to Omaha, there was another ensign and his wife on the train, and he said, 'Where are you gonna stay when you get to San Francisco?' And we said, 'We don’t know, we’ll…