"[My parents] had friends in California that they knew there. So that’s the only place…all they knew was Oxnard, California. And from El Paso they went all the way to Los Angeles to Oxnard. Walked all the way...My dad went to work for...the owner…

"when we went to England, the only thing we could take with us was the equivalent of about ten dollars each, one ring and one watch…each. If we had—I mean, we were children. I had—I think—I didn’t have no rings, but I had a watch. So we…

“Well, my grandfather owned-. He had a small farm…I can just remember going there with him once or twice as a small child. I was probably two, two and a half when we went back to live with him…The thing that I remember most was he had a small,…